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Console battle heats up between Wii and XBox: Netflix, ESPN rumors up the stakes
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Dur
2010-01-19 20:38:12 UTC
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(End User) - Both the Wii and XBox have generated a good deal of buzz
so far this week, but not with game titles as you might expect. It
appears that both companies are making strides toward re-imagining
their consoles as multi-media gadgets, pushing their usability far
beyond the game realm. While initially the Wii and XBox have
influenced very different demographics — the Wii for family-oriented
gaming and a certainly advanced approach to gameplay, and the XBox to
the more hardcore gamers — the line between the two is starting to
blur...

Continued: http://tr.im/ConsoleB
Doug Jacobs
2010-01-19 22:49:10 UTC
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Post by Dur
(End User) - Both the Wii and XBox have generated a good deal of buzz
so far this week, but not with game titles as you might expect. It
appears that both companies are making strides toward re-imagining
their consoles as multi-media gadgets, pushing their usability far
beyond the game realm. While initially the Wii and XBox have
influenced very different demographics ? the Wii for family-oriented
gaming and a certainly advanced approach to gameplay, and the XBox to
the more hardcore gamers ? the line between the two is starting to
blur...
Continued: http://tr.im/ConsoleB
Who really cares?

The head of Nintendo US said Netflix on the Wii is a waste of time and I
have to agree with him. Most Wii owners have never hooked up their Wii to
the internet and I doubt this new feature is going to convince them to
suddenly try.

As for ESPN on the 360...again, I have to sort of wonder why. I mean, if
I want to watch ESPN, all I have to do is flip the TV over to the
satellite box. If I'm using my 360 it's because I don't want to watch TV.

Does anyone out there look at the videos, commericals and related stuff on
Xbox Live right now? Most of it is stuff you can get elsewhere on the
internet, or just by watching TV, or is just uninteresting to me.
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It's not broken. It's...advanced.
Tempest
2010-01-19 23:05:23 UTC
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Post by Doug Jacobs
Post by Dur
(End User) - Both the Wii and XBox have generated a good deal of buzz
so far this week, but not with game titles as you might expect. It
appears that both companies are making strides toward re-imagining
their consoles as multi-media gadgets, pushing their usability far
beyond the game realm. While initially the Wii and XBox have
influenced very different demographics ? the Wii for family-oriented
gaming and a certainly advanced approach to gameplay, and the XBox to
the more hardcore gamers ? the line between the two is starting to
blur...
Continued:http://tr.im/ConsoleB
Who really cares?
The head of Nintendo US said Netflix on the Wii is a waste of time and I
have to agree with him.  Most Wii owners have never hooked up their Wii to
the internet and I doubt this new feature is going to convince them to
suddenly try.  
As for ESPN on the 360...again, I have to sort of wonder why.  I mean, if
I want to watch ESPN, all I have to do is flip the TV over to the
satellite box.  If I'm using my 360 it's because I don't want to watch TV.
Actually you wouldn't.

They're talking about sports events that are not currently being shown
on ESPN and/or are only available on pay-per-view.
Post by Doug Jacobs
Does anyone out there look at the videos, commericals and related stuff on
Xbox Live right now?  Most of it is stuff you can get elsewhere on the
internet, or just by watching TV, or is just uninteresting to me.
It's just you.

Netflix on Xbox Live is very popular. I watch movies as much as I play
games and at any given time half the people on my friends list are
watching movies on Netflix.

And I'm seeing more and more of my friends using Last.FM. I'm
streaming music that I can't find anywhere else several hours a day
rather than listening to a radio or watching TV.
AGENT47
2010-01-19 23:11:46 UTC
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Post by Tempest
Post by Doug Jacobs
Post by Dur
(End User) - Both the Wii and XBox have generated a good deal of buzz
so far this week, but not with game titles as you might expect. It
appears that both companies are making strides toward re-imagining
their consoles as multi-media gadgets, pushing their usability far
beyond the game realm. While initially the Wii and XBox have
influenced very different demographics ? the Wii for family-oriented
gaming and a certainly advanced approach to gameplay, and the XBox to
the more hardcore gamers ? the line between the two is starting to
blur...
Continued:http://tr.im/ConsoleB
Who really cares?
The head of Nintendo US said Netflix on the Wii is a waste of time and I
have to agree with him.  Most Wii owners have never hooked up their Wii to
the internet and I doubt this new feature is going to convince them to
suddenly try.  
As for ESPN on the 360...again, I have to sort of wonder why.  I mean, if
I want to watch ESPN, all I have to do is flip the TV over to the
satellite box.  If I'm using my 360 it's because I don't want to watch TV.
Actually you wouldn't.
They're talking about sports events that are not currently being shown
on ESPN and/or are only available on pay-per-view.
Post by Doug Jacobs
Does anyone out there look at the videos, commericals and related stuff on
Xbox Live right now?  Most of it is stuff you can get elsewhere on the
internet, or just by watching TV, or is just uninteresting to me.
It's just you.
Netflix on Xbox Live is very popular. I watch movies as much as I play
games and at any given time half the people on my friends list are
watching movies on Netflix.
And I'm seeing more and more of my friends using Last.FM. I'm
streaming music that I can't find anywhere else several hours a day
rather than listening to a radio or watching TV.- Hide quoted text -
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Yeah I always scan all commericals, gameplay hint videos, behind the
scenes etc.

There's always free gamer pics or free themes in most of em.

Plus I won 400 MP when I entered one of those random movie trailers ,
I just downloaded gamerpics.

There's tons of extra content on LIVE I like to surf around a bit now
and then
Doug Jacobs
2010-01-22 19:34:59 UTC
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Post by Tempest
Post by Doug Jacobs
Does anyone out there look at the videos, commericals and related stuff on
Xbox Live right now? ?Most of it is stuff you can get elsewhere on the
internet, or just by watching TV, or is just uninteresting to me.
It's just you.
Netflix on Xbox Live is very popular. I watch movies as much as I play
games and at any given time half the people on my friends list are
watching movies on Netflix.
A much larger percentage of 360 owners have their 360 online already, and
have a Gold account for gaming purposes. I doubt very much there's a
significant number of people whose only purpose for having a Gold account
is to stream movies from Netflix.

The percentage of Wii owners who have their console connected online is
much much lower than that of 360 owners. For some it's because of child
safety reasons. For others they just don't care, or don't know about the
feature - which is my point - Netflix on the Wii isn't going to suddenly
convince any significant number of Wii owners to suddenly take their Wii
online.

From a marketing standpoint, it's nice to be able to say "yeah, we can do
that too" but honestly it's rather silly to spend resources supporting a
feature that not many of your customers are ever going to bother using.
--
It's not broken. It's...advanced.
WDS
2010-01-22 19:47:13 UTC
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A much larger percentage of 360 owners have their 360 online already ...
The percentage of Wii owners who have their console connected online is
much much lower than that of 360 owners. ...
From a marketing standpoint, it's nice to be able to say "yeah, we can do
that too" but honestly it's rather silly to spend resources supporting a
feature that not many of your customers are ever going to bother using.
# Wii – 50.39 million, as of 31 October 2009 (2009 -10-31)
# Xbox 360 – 34 million,as of 2 October 2009 (2009 -10-02)

It's hard to get exact numbers but back in march there was an article
that said that about 50% of XBox360 users used Live and 29% of Wii users
used whatever the Wii thing is.

From a marketing standpoint, well, do the math.

.29*50mil == 14.5 million
.5*34 == 17 million

Almost a draw.
GMAN
2010-01-22 21:26:52 UTC
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Post by Doug Jacobs
Post by Tempest
Post by Doug Jacobs
Does anyone out there look at the videos, commericals and related stuff on
Xbox Live right now? ?Most of it is stuff you can get elsewhere on the
internet, or just by watching TV, or is just uninteresting to me.
It's just you.
Netflix on Xbox Live is very popular. I watch movies as much as I play
games and at any given time half the people on my friends list are
watching movies on Netflix.
A much larger percentage of 360 owners have their 360 online already, and
have a Gold account for gaming purposes. I doubt very much there's a
significant number of people whose only purpose for having a Gold account
is to stream movies from Netflix.
The percentage of Wii owners who have their console connected online is
much much lower than that of 360 owners. For some it's because of child
safety reasons. For others they just don't care, or don't know about the
feature - which is my point - Netflix on the Wii isn't going to suddenly
convince any significant number of Wii owners to suddenly take their Wii
online.
From a marketing standpoint, it's nice to be able to say "yeah, we can do
that too" but honestly it's rather silly to spend resources supporting a
feature that not many of your customers are ever going to bother using.
Natal anyone?
pricjs28@mail.buffalostate.edu
2010-01-25 18:38:18 UTC
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Netflix on Wii is not worth it, at least for me, with the non HD
quality videos.

Joe User
2010-01-20 15:29:22 UTC
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Post by Doug Jacobs
Post by Dur
(End User) - Both the Wii and XBox have generated a good deal of buzz
so far this week, but not with game titles as you might expect. It
appears that both companies are making strides toward re-imagining
their consoles as multi-media gadgets, pushing their usability far
beyond the game realm. While initially the Wii and XBox have
influenced very different demographics ? the Wii for family-oriented
gaming and a certainly advanced approach to gameplay, and the XBox to
the more hardcore gamers ? the line between the two is starting to
blur...
Continued: http://tr.im/ConsoleB
Who really cares?
The head of Nintendo US said Netflix on the Wii is a waste of time and I
have to agree with him. Most Wii owners have never hooked up their Wii to
the internet and I doubt this new feature is going to convince them to
suddenly try.
As for ESPN on the 360...again, I have to sort of wonder why. I mean, if
I want to watch ESPN, all I have to do is flip the TV over to the
satellite box. If I'm using my 360 it's because I don't want to watch TV.
Does anyone out there look at the videos, commericals and related stuff on
Xbox Live right now? Most of it is stuff you can get elsewhere on the
internet, or just by watching TV, or is just uninteresting to me.
ESPN360.com is actually a website that you have to pay for right now.
Many cable operators are including free access to it for their
subscribers. I assume this would be the same type of deal except free
for all Xbox users. Of course with the Xbox you'd be able to watch it on
your TV instead of on your computer.
argento32
2010-01-21 03:25:10 UTC
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"_XBox, however, does not appear to be chasing the tail of any other
console"

Thats when I stopped taking this article seriously. Love my 360 but
honestly Project Natal and the PSWand are trying to capture the Wii
market and Nintendo has already beautifully cornered it.
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